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Postby cleanoff » Mon Sep 07, 2009 12:11 pm

hey co-opp- friends, is anyone here doing like an arts (ie painting, sculpture etc) or music degree? and does it seem pointless to get a piece of paper to you? I mean getting a qualification in art seems a bit i dunno, lame..

thoughts?
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Postby TheTallest » Mon Sep 07, 2009 12:34 pm

iliiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii lawl

Anouncer: "Make sure to get enough sleep or this might happen to you"

Guy Falls asleep and wakes up

Teacher: "Pencils Down the Test is over"

Announcer: "Or even this"

Guy falls asleep and wakes up

Teacher: "Congratulations you have completed a Bachelor of Fine Arts"

Student: "Not Again!"

Postby d3v1an7 » Tue Sep 08, 2009 1:42 pm

thats what i was thinking when i was doing my design degree.
regret dropping out now though - a bit of paper can mean a lot at the end of the day.
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Postby Strange_Brew » Tue Sep 08, 2009 3:23 pm

You might need it to impress the people who won't give you the chance to show them how kick-ass awesome you are unless you have a degree.
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Postby cleanoff » Tue Sep 08, 2009 11:48 pm

hmm very true, paper, PAPER ALWAYS BEATS ROCKKKK
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Postby TheTallest » Wed Sep 09, 2009 10:20 am

Unless the rock is on FIRE!

Postby ili » Mon Oct 19, 2009 4:36 pm

As tallest has so appropriate laughed at me, yes, I have a Bachelor of Fine Arts.

I don't have to defend myself here. You are all computer geeks who know nothing about art. It is a waste on you all and it is a part of a world you will never get to have any insight into.

I hope you all have a wonderful life.

Postby jtm33 » Mon Oct 19, 2009 5:02 pm

Oh, you even seemed to have learned the fine art of trolling ili! Jokes :p
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Postby VicTheBitter » Mon Oct 19, 2009 5:11 pm

I know about art. :cry:

Postby Shelby Mustang » Mon Oct 19, 2009 5:15 pm

VicTheBitter wrote:I know about art. :cry:

Its alright Vic, we still love you more :D
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Postby VicTheBitter » Mon Oct 19, 2009 5:22 pm

:cry:

Postby TheTallest » Mon Oct 19, 2009 5:37 pm

ili wrote:As tallest has so appropriate laughed at me, yes, I have a Bachelor of Fine Arts.

I don't have to defend myself here. You are all computer geeks who know nothing about art. It is a waste on you all and it is a part of a world you will never get to have any insight into.

I hope you all have a wonderful life.


You know I'm kidding Iliiiiiiii, please try not to take me seriously in those kinds of half baked comment's, I really should have taken note this was in serious business >_> so I suppose you deserve a bit of an apology.

Also haha at the computer Geeks Generalisation (admittedly deserved considering my own generalisations :P), just because I'm a terrible artist (except of bullshitting, I'm a freaking maestro at that) doesn't mean I can't or don't appreciate good art. (while I am more appreciative of music and don't have much truck with the more abstract parts of the art world that doesn't mean I think they are intrinsically valueless.)

My Serious Business opinion on Art Degrees? They are useless except as a basis for moving into more specialised area's via masters degrees etc, if that's what a person is planning on doing they are certainly a good use of the person's time. But that's true of any degree less focused on a specific industry. Pure Arts are an incredibly difficult thing to define and nigh on impossible to teach as it is something intrinsic in the person, one of the issues with the generic Art's degree is that it doesn't relate that well to the commercial world and leaves a lot of graduates without the professional skills they need to get by after graduation.

As a relation to my life when we were hiring basic help desk tech's we we're looking for the things we could not easily train them in (interpersonal skills mostly) much more-so than their actual technical knowledge

Anyone working to learn more is doing something right with their lives. the world would be a much better place if people expanded their minds more often.

So yeah, that's my spiel on Art's degree's they aren't intrinsically bad, its just a lot of graduates don't make much use of them.

Postby SharK » Mon Oct 19, 2009 10:21 pm

What can you observe from this tallest?

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Seriously though, if you are into arts then go for it man

Postby TheTallest » Tue Oct 20, 2009 8:44 am

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Postby ili » Tue Oct 20, 2009 8:46 am

Sorry Tallest, I was having a bit of a womanly moment yesterday :( I know you don't mean it, but it's still grating at times. :mad:

As for if an art degree is a waste of paper... no. Because anything you learn has value. I agree with Tallest, one degree alone doesn't really mean anything. It won't get you anywhere, because everyone else in your course has the exact same degree. Same can be said for someone with a Computing degree. All the Indians have the same degree, you have to go out there and get yourself more specialised.

There are many jobs out there that you can do with an Arts degree. There's more art related jobs out there than you'd think. The last semester of my course required us to get a professional placement for that semester somewhere in the arts industry. People came up with a wide variety of job placements. But that being said, I know most of my peers stopped at third year of my course and went into teaching, because that is the one very viable job prospect. I myself am working towards doing a masters course to complement my Fine arts background.

The reason I get really mad when people I know through this community, and the general gaming community talk badly of the arts is because, honestly, the majority of you all do computing, engineering based stuff in school or in your actual lives. You people are folks who love to build computers and tend to be good at maths. I know, my brother does computing and in that way he is completely opposite to me. he's good at maths, I'm good at english, etc. Art is basically a foreign concept to you. Subjects relating to Humanities and Social Sciences is something you don't care about. My arts course was from the School of Communications Arts. I just don't feel like this stuff has any relevance in an intrest sort of catagory to anyone here. And yes, I am generalising, because in my experience it is true. People I talk with have no idea or interest in the arts, and all come from a background I have previously mentioned.

And sometimes I think I should be more of an advocate to show people that having an arts degree isn't stereotypical. The notion alone that artists are lazy is false. No one here will ever know how much hard work any of my peers put into the course that we did. How much stress and effort it was to get through it.

Yeah sure, I personally am having a hard time finding work, but mostly coz I can't be assed trying properly. Art related jobs are hard to get into but I do have windows I could be persuing, I just havn't the motivation to. And that's a personal thing. A lot of my friends I went through the course with have jobs and opportunities which have taken them to doing something worthwhile with their degrees. It's a very individual process.
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